Sunday, 16 December 2012

LIST OF Q'S re. Newport shootings

(Please also read post of Dec. 9, 2012)

The list below was the first one circulated widely on the Internet in my name (though I did not write it).
There is much more now on the blog; but for historical purposes I am keeping this page up, with the list and my thoughts above it. The list follows, and has a bright ORANGE highlighted title. All the rest were my thoughts and updates and caveats.


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Several q's re. Connecticut Newport shootings.


Calm down everyone & here's the best list I've found (not perfect): Q's we can ask about Newport shootings.

See below, at next highlighted title.

WE are always to ask. WE are "police" citizen investigators ... of the reports on the Newport, CT (Sandy Hook) shootings and all criminal events.

WE have a role and responsibility, in case of fraud.


If false flag, WHY? Libor blackmail of dads of Lanza and Holmes ("Batman", Aurora, accused as lone shooter) & gun control advocates in paragov't elements & other piggyback reasons?

USE A FEW KIDS TO SAVE THOUSANDS FROM GUN KILLINGS -- sympathy card?


*** UPDATE DEC. 19 #1: SEIGLE'S QUESTIONS LIST BELOW INCLUDES POSSIBLY FRAUDULENT CHILD-DEATHS EVIDENCE, but these ARE TURNING OUT WRONG. OTHER ITEMS REMAIN TO BE SIFTED THROUGH. I LEAVE THE ORIGINAL LIST FOR HISTORICAL ACCURACY ABOUT WHAT IT WAS WHEN IT WAS MADE. ***

*** Update Dec. 19 #2: Some are now determining the following likelihoods and facts, which bears out the need to ask when deaths occur and where, not to assume anything about death lists and places. I'm attempting to follow up on these:

three shooters,


mom and son killed night before, body delivered by police to school

dressed in body armour

son and mother's legends, total creation, loner...mental issues....mom and guns...all fabricated

alarm and video at school wiped

3 shooters, two arrested and released

where evidence is as of NOW


g [source of this set of opinions/info] 

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*** Update Jan. 1: We cannot say the suspects around the school were surely shooters. There were two which ran by ("shadows") outside the gym which the police (radio) said they saw and apprehended one of at the time. So these were not mere calm persons in the park nearby, but running -- and at least briefly suspects. Also, Lanza is now stated to have been wearing a utility vest, not armour. There is also now better false-death information than I knew of on Dec. 19 when I did that first update. See post "Satanism & Fakes at Sandy Hook?" from Jan. 1, 2012 ---- BUT THERE IS ALSO SOME VERY WRONG SPECULATION OUT THERE, about fake deaths, ON THE 'NET. I INCLUDED ONLY THE STRONGEST IN MY POST.


To gun control advocates:
Yes, the USA has too easy access to guns and a culture of violence, so there are such high crime rates with them, but confiscation is not the answer. Aside from that, each crime must be treated separately and this case doesn't look so easy. Please suspend your impressions in light of the following information, likely new to you.

About the list:
Someone named Charles Seigle (pseudonym) noticed some AMAZING things. I am well aware that NONE is listed with a reference in his text, to check out the factoid. I posted it anyway, because it could get people looking at the event WITH SOME POINTERS, to preclude the possibility that there might be reports taken off Youtube & news sites as being "inappropriate" (censored) -- instead of properly answered.

If you need to, in order to emotionally process his list, skip my 2nd & 3rd points (i.e., points b) and c)) and his 1st three points (about possible false death list padding) in the main list below. The reason I mention this is that some people have stopped at point 1 & claimed the list is disinfo. Many points turn out not to be correct over time but some remain substantiated sometimes. So I left the first points he made, for honesty about his full questions, and because all possibilities (initial leads) must be considered: either an initial lead will get crossed off, one by one (lleads which are non-leads), or else they become full leads.

(With certain other events, as you should know, there HAVE been additions to death records for propaganda purposes, so he was wondering about the small trauma room results. Initially, all leads as anomalies must be noted and crossed off if they turn out to be non-leads. So I left the list unedited.)

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I add first, as I said I would:

a)
The dad of Lanza was reportedly VP of GE Capital and involved in Libor scandal hearings, as was James Holmes (Aurora "Batman")'s dad.

b)
The teacher (unconfirmed reports -- can anyone confirm this?) was supposedly announced as dead 4 days early, on Facebook. If this was a normal update edit then that's fine. But it must be settled.

c) If this turns out to be a false flag, then: was it a drill gone live for blackmail in Libor and another round of gun confiscation? If the bodies were taken away in the middle of the night, after they said they were not going to, was it crime-scene altering? If the children had not died, we would have to ask if there was a child abduction or abuse-ring clean-up job. This does not seem to be the case here. (For those who don't know about that sort of thing, start here with ex-NYPD cop who investigated such things, Jim Rothstein: http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2012/12/jim-rothstein.html#comment-form  -- Right-click on green name at top to save and listen).

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Okay, here's Charles Seigle's list:

 Newtown Massac[r]e...the MAJOR DISCREPANCIES LIST (add to it)
 Here was a list I [ed.: Charles Seigle, pseudonym] put together on another web site:

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1) As yet, we have not seen any concrete evidence that any child died.

2) As yet, parents have not been allowed to see their children. (Photoshopped pictures do
not count.)

3) As of now, I have seen only one unambiguous statement from a grieving parent (Robbie
Parker).

4) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother's ID, and it
was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan--who officials say is very cooperative--claims
not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does
such use not qualify as a theft?

5) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and
bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a
bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?

6) The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon,
and police/FBI say that the school was littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was
found dead in the school with only handguns--a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. But
then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the
murders. Who did?

7) According to the official story, the killing was tightly confined to two classrooms. But then
why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?

8 ) Joanne Didonato, the principal's secretary, called in sick on Friday--something she rarely
does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give
an interview. "Of all days," she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.

9) The hospital went into lockdown and cleared four trauma rooms, but received only three
patients, two of them dead children(according to the official story) and one mildly wounded
adult.

10) Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and
that she died at the school, when the new official story is that she was not connected to the
school and was killed at home?

11) What happened to the report that Adam Lanza's girlfriend and another friend were
missing in New Jersey?

12) What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested
and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, "It wasn't me." Who was
he and what was he doing there?

13) What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot, or
the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?

14) The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector who obeyed the law. But since
20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why
would she give her "autistic" son access to both guns and ammo?

15) Why were parents told on Friday that "if you haven't been reunited with your child by now it's already over"?
Does anyone imagine that real parents of real children would simply say, "Okay, the show's over, let's go home now"?

16) Would real parents of real children really be satisfied with (possibly photoshopped)
pictures of their children? Wouldn't they demand to see their children one last time firsthand?17) According to the official story, 28 people died but only 1 was wounded. The dead
included 20 small, squirmy children--difficult targets even for professionals. How could Adam
Lanza achieve such amazingly deadly accuracy, in such a short length of time?

18 ) A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, "Put your hands up," followed by the
reply, "Don't shoot." This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the
school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?

19) Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs
on. Again, this indicates that the police took a suspect into custody. If that was Adam Lanza,
how did he then kill himself?

20) When Ryan Lanza was falsely identified as the shooter, who deleted his Facebook profile
and created many others in his name?

21) Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of
ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?

22) Why did the police say on Friday that they were going to leave the bodies rotting in the
school until Sunday, then Saturday morning announce that they had spirited the bodies away
in the middle of the night? Perhaps to ensure that the transport, if any, would go unrecorded
on photos or video?

23) Why won't police tell us where they found the Henry repeating rifle, the Enfield rifle, and
the shotgun?

24) Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?

25) Why did a police officer specifically mention, on radio, that "they're coming at me
through this wood," followed by a fellow officer saying, "This is it"?

26) One officer in the school said, "We've got one suspect down." Who was that? Down in
this situation generally means in custody(on the ground and cuffed), not dead.

27) Why didn't Adam's uncle see anything out of the ordinary in Adam when the two saw
each other in June?

28 ) Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically),
"[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school"?

29) Why did police assign an individual state trooper to every grieving family, whether the
family wants such "protection" or not?

30) Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police
pretending that it's for their own benefit?

31) Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza's brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion,
who lives next door to the former Lanza home?

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