Thursday, 24 January 2013

Jeff Prager plans an attack on me

UPDATE Apr. 9, 2013: Prager has gotten so upset that he's quit formal 9/11 research for now. He has done so at what he interprets as Dr. Jim Fetzer and my idiocy on Sandy Hook, thinking instead that all problems found in the Sandy Hook event, are due to media error and misuse of a real and natural event by propagandists such as Cass Sunstein to mislead good 9/11 researchers such as Jim (he doesn't count me there anyway).

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Having gone everywhere from calling me an operative to dumber than a sack of rocks, to saying other more sexually explicit things ...

Jeff Prager has taken the position that all is reporting error and some form of natural grieving process (because we smile, we must hyperventilate and smile again, Jeff, is that it? -- per Robbie Parker).

For honesty's sake, here is Jeff Prager's video about Sandy Hook: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAA4CPAGbu4 His attack on me will come on his blog, he says. You'll see that in the thread below. (Sorry: including a thread from e-mail makes this post long, but I encourage you to eyeball it all the way through.)

Yes, this is the Jeff Prager who's done such a great job finding and promoting the USGS's multiple nuclear product data samples from the WTC area.

WHY?

He thinks the reporting changes for Sandy Hook were partly to CREATE a suggestion that this was a conspiracy, to make citizen researchers jump, so that they look silly when they go look at other "real" events, such as 9/11, "as distinct from" Sandy Hook. He has also gone so far, at times, to suggest that I am a person who is "deliberately spreading their lies" about Sandy Hook. So the material suggesting conspiracy or mistakes for Sandy Hook reports is set up, in his mind, to suggest that there was a conspiracy for us to jump on and discredit ourselves; also that I, on purpose, as an agent, or due to "psychological insanity" have been spreading this idea. So he thinks that many misstatements or haste from researchers -- such as Mike Powers -- is spread by a government piggybacking on a real Sandy Hook event to make all the conspiracy researchers look wrong.

Prager demonstrates that he doesn't realize Rosen changed his story so much.

He also didn't listen through the WHOLE Mike Powers interview, IN CASE.

He's convinced the gov't is using us as weirdos and bad news reporting and maybe some fake news to throw us into a frenzy and discredit us.

He suggests that Adam doesn't have medical prescription or doctor records because some people (such as Jeff himself) don't; but the whole case now rests on his medicated state.



He says there's a lack of prescriptions for Adam Lanza because Jeff doesn't go for prescriptions himself! But the whole Lanza-perpetrator case is based on no motive except his highly medicated "psychological sickness" profile (now that his mother is not supposed to have been working at the school in any volunteer or official capacity).

He's very afraid that if one is into conspiracy research enough to question everything, as in question so as to basically "run with the conspiracy possibility enough to build whatever case is there and determine if that is so", one will discredit the "legitimate" false flag events such as 9/11. And I do understand that -- but I gave up on judging people outright for mistakes or being into things I thought were weird. I learned from some of them, so I let them be.

He also has the attitude that if facts can fit EITHER side, they ought to be trounced, until something definite pops up on one side. The problem with that, as I explain in the radio show below, is that SOME clincher items in a case show up as CONNECTORS between two maybes, not as individual items alone. He seems to miss this.

He has in fact corrected some facts along the way, as well, and I and anyone reading this blog have him sometimes to thank for corrections I've made. But he has the attitude that my not being careful on every piece as it comes in -- usually I am pretty good with that, but not always -- means that I am an agent, "op"(erative) -- from which he's now backed down -- or psycho. He's said that Jim Fetzer can't argue, since he supported me.

He also has decided, because I do look at some things he considers impossible as possible or maybe possible (MKUltra, free-energy technologies) that I am unable to argue or think. He initially got this idea while we were discussing 9/11 for the Vancouver Hearings this past June. He insisted that people (such as I) who were willing to look at video evidence carefully for 9/11 research were either not hard nosed or were just better at it than he. To me, however, he has now ballooned the idea that it is the former in my case and that therefore, as he put it once, I can't "read any book over 400 pages long". As such, he has insisted, smugly, that he knows 95% of what's out there on MKUltra and that it failed and I didn't figure that out.

He has every right to take the side that all is explained away, since nothing is definite, singular, about the possibility of a conspiracy of rogue elements in gov't and outside it, when it comes to the Sandy Hook event.
In fact, I represented much of his position on a recent broadcast to New Orleans on Patriot Radio show by Gary King, http://wgso.com/?cat=60 (for the podcast). The radio station it was on is a locally owned talk radio station, WSGO AM 990.

However, I want to point out for the record that his version of considering a position "debunked" is flawed; finding some errors in the case for conspiracy or in the case for natural event is NOT a debunking of either side. It can be, if there is something which holds the whole case together and it's debunked, but there can be something else which crops up which holds a case together again. So we have to be careful not to dismiss EITHER side too quickly or stop looking.

He's called me a fraud or liar many times. Let's see how his fraudulent attitude spills ... in the specific example of Mind Control Assassins. (No, I'm not claiming Lanza had to be one.)

RIGHT TO THE END, JEFF WILL NOT LOOK AT THE PROOF of MKULTRA NICE-GUY PATSY SHOOTER POSEURS.
NOTE MY REPLY AT THE VERY END of the thread you'll see below has to still remind him to do due diligence on the topic:

"They don't need MK for everything and seem (Chapman, Hinckley, Sirhan) to use it mostly -- if they did -- for the patsy who doesn't actually do the kill shot, if the person is not a natural killer deep down.

Watch the show."

The show in question is at www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9J6O6soHA It is the mentalist/ hypnotist Derren Brown's proof that if dissociated from the idea of doing a kill, if one has made somebody suggestible a decent shot under hypnosis trigger states, with triggers also to forget, then a person who's nice can point and shoot at a person. It's a quite wonderful show on all fronts: bravery, reverse engineering (from things Sirhan said about feeling he was at a shooting range and others saying about him he was a peaceful young man), and watchability (including because Stephen Fry is part of it at the end, too).

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So:
Prager claims that he does due diligence on all things and knows it all about a topic when HE says so. He's claimed MK Ultra Mind Control programs failed AND if they did not, it succeeded with people who wanted to commit a crime anyway -- which to him isn't Mind Control.

I pointed out again and again that Mind Control (outside of a semantic argument about "control") is a program referring to manipulation; if someone is managed or manipulated to express a desire they would not have, under hypnosis or shock, and to help them hone their tendency for your purposes, it would be Mind Control.

But he's also hereby claiming that there are NO UNWILLING KILLERS. And this is patently false: by dissociating the person from the MEANING of the crime, the person experiences merely the feelings of shooting and target and excellence of target practice. Derren Brown has proven there are nice people who, as hypnosis subjects, respond to a method for getting them to shoot people: they don't think it's about killing! www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9J6O6soHA

Jeff REFUSES TO WATCH IT -- because it came from me. Talk about an ad hominem fallacy.

He calls me a fraud but won't watch it. Again and again won't.

Lol.

Good try, Jeff.
I hope your efforts to show Sandy Hook was not a conspiracy can TRULY debunk the case for conspiracy. However, having 2 sides valid does NOT mean the nicer explanation is the real one. Plus, I think you're stretching the Newtown Bee's disappearing principle and mask article and the high death success rate ... no squirming people except 2?

Anyway ...


Below is an e-mail thread for example (1st date to last date):

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From: jeff prager
To: clare kuehn
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:45:59 AM
Subject: Hey Clare

It took me a while. I had to go back to the comment about Nancy Lanza working at the school in your article on Veterans Today to see where that comment originated. [I DIDN'T CREATE THAT REPORT.] It seems that a GREAT DEAL of the false anomalies making their way around the internet originated with you. I didn't realize how active you were right from the very beginning almost within hours of the event you were beginning a Sandy Hook internet footprint.

I've downloaded everything you've ever posted on Sandy Hook on the internet publicly. I spent hours on this yesterday, went to bed late and woke up early and spent more hours making notes and dating your posts. I can see your thought process. I can see where you grab scandalous material like the LIBOR deal in the article on Veterans Today and some other weird web site of yours and you never even checked to see if there was a Senate LIBOR hearing and there wasn't yet you called this a "Major Discrepancy".

You're the one actually starting and perpetuating these nasty lies.

You're not an investigator or researcher.

You're a joke.
Peace,
Jeff



From: clare kuehn
To: jeff prager
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare

Nancy Lanza was reported in many places working at the school. The general idea was she was a kindergarten teacher ... gave a motive to Adam's shootings.

Has nothing to do with me!

http://www.mediaite.com/online/reports-nancy-lanza-wasnt-a-teacher-at-sandy-hook-elementary/

The LIBOR thing I heard of, and passed it on. Mike Powers has done work on it, he says in his interview and now we know (if he's right) that underlings (3) were indicted for fraud under LIBOR or related to it.

As to me ... I didn't know of the Sandy Hook anomalies until the 20th or so. [ADMITTEDLY, IN THIS E-MAIL EXCHANGE, I DIDN'T GO BACK TO CHECK EXACTLY; I STARTED THE BLOG ABOUT THEN.] Someone sent me the list and I thought, if any of this is true, let's get it out there. A lot of it turned out to be true --- of the reports, at least.

Stop your paranoia. [IN IMPLYING AGAIN THAT I'M STARTING LIES, I KNEW HE WAS AGAIN SUGGESTING I'M AN OP / AGENT] You're way worse a paranoiac than those you accuse of being "into finding" conspiracy ----- which, by the way, we all should be enough [EAGER ENOUGH] to really look, in case.



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Gimme some truth.  -- John Lennon



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From: jeff prager
To: clare kuehn

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:39:41 AM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare

Your list is dated the 18th. The list is full of shit. There were NO LIBOR Hearings. No one was indicted for LIBOR in the US. It was a UK investigation you dumb ass.

YOU HAVE A PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY ON THE WEB NOT TO POST MISLEADING SHIT AND ALL YOU DO IS POST MISLEADING SHIT. YOU THINK OUT LOUD ON THE INTERNET.

YOU CREATE FALSE MEMES PURPOSELY.I know who you are Clare.

You're not stupid, you're purposeful. [HE HAS CALLED ME AN 'OP' OR AGENT BEFORE. HE COMES CLOSE TO USING THAT TERM HERE; HE'LL DISAVOW THE IDEA BELOW.]
Peace,
Jeff




From: clare kuehn
To: jeff prager
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare

You are paranoid now.

I started the blog the 20th or so.

Yes, I do think out loud on the internet. I think that's fine. I'm sharing, then I correct or move forward.
It was after the list was sent to me and Jim posted it that I started the blog, so it would have been before, when the list went around. That sounds about right.

Fine, the Libor hearings in the UK. I didn't know it was limited to there -- since the horror is all over. Point was, the father was rumoured to have a Libor connection and -- through underlings anyway -- he did. By the way, where are the usual news briefs, podium chats from the father of the dead Adam? Hm? No camera appearances from any Lanza member?

And no, the list is not full of shit; it's QUESTIONS and you don't seem to see the validity of some of them as questions --- removing bodies at night and everybody died right away except for 1-2? When did that glass door break? 

Anyway, when I say things are suspicious, it doesn't mean they are necessarily "suspicious" in the final accounting if we ever get there; I mean they're ODD.

But you don't get that. Which is fine, for you. Still, you're not correct that there are no suspicious things (not exclusively, but suspicious because so unusual you're now having to say they were done by Cass Sunstein's bunch to sow confusion!).

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Gimme some truth.  -- John Lennon



From: jeff prager
To: clare kuehn

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:25:06 PM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare

Some of us figured out what happened at Sandy Hook a month ago.

YOU haven't and that you believe "thinking out loud" on the internet with issues as critically dividing as this is OK you're even more nutso than I thought you were. You are spreading rumors on the internet. That's outlandish. It's fraud. You should be banned from the internet.

Almost everything, almost every issue you've raised is dead. Take every valid issue you have left and ask yourself, do these all add up to a vast conspiracy?

What happened to the actor coroner? He lost his acting license?

Your [SIC] nuts. A complete psycho.

Actors? OMG! Don't you think things through and ask yourself how there could be actors inserted into a small town and the townspeople not marching in the streets? Or do you go into a delusional state where you think they could have paid off the entire town?
Peace,
Jeff




From: clare kuehn
To: jeff prager
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare

Jeff, you think you're so great. Go on.

As to the idea of everything's being dead -- NO IT IS NOT.

There are 2 explanations possible for a lot of it and some of it is HIGHLY UNUSUAL.
As to actors: THERE WAS A LIVE DRILL NEARBY. NOT HARD TO HAVE ACTORS AROUND! THEY'RE ALL ACTORS. Some could have been commandeered or planted.

Geezuss.

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Gimme some truth.  -- John Lennon




From: jeff prager
To: clare kuehn

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:50:07 PM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare

"Some could have been commandeered or planted."

Clare, are you an adult or a small child?

You don't think. You don't.

That you could believe that this might be true is apparent.

And so is the fact that you don't check anything and you believe things until they're proven false.

I work the opposite way. I don't believe anything until it's proven true. I also don't write about anything until I can at least substantiate it rather well. You should try it. Your method is identical to Jims. Jims Mossad essay was premature as I tried to tell him and guess what? So is EVERYTHING you've ever posted on Sandy Hook and that includes every post you've ever posted. They're all "3-man Mossad teams". Every one of your posts. [ SEE BELOW: I DON'T SUPPORT THAT THESIS AND NEVER DID SO FAR, THOUGH I HAVE MENTIONED G DUFF WHO DOES ]

Peace,
Jeff





From: clare kuehn
To: jeff prager
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare

Whatever. You are paranoid, and you also don't understand proof; you know of only one format.

By the way, you have NOT substantiated your claims on this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9J6O6soHA&noredirect=1

Might do your homework on a very important item. [HE NEVER ADDRESSES THIS.]


I never believed it was Mossad. I am open to the idea but I hate the "Zio-rabble" conspiracy types.

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Gimme some truth.  -- John Lennon



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From: jeff prager
To: clare kuehn

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:20:06 PM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare

I'm posting this today.

Clare Kuehn, Integrity, Personal Responsibility, Facebook & The Web

OR

How People See Conspiracies Everywhere They Aren't
~ by Jeff Prager
Peace,
Jeff




From: clare kuehn
To: jeff prager
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare

*(:| yawn

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Gimme some truth.  -- John Lennon



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From: jeff prager
To: clare kuehn

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:38:09 PM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare

Clare, I don't care what you think but I have 8,700 readers. I gained over 100 subscribers just because I've posted the truth across 25+ essays on Sandy Hook and an eBook during the past 40 days. What you think doesn't matter dear. [SEXIST CONDESCENSION. HE'S SEXUALIZED THE CONVERSATION IN OTHER WAYS NOT SHOWN HERE ON THE BLOG, TOO.] It's what the people that rely on me think that matters. I post the truth every day and I don't think out loud and you can go back across my last 1000 posts and you won't find errors. Your last 100 posts are ALL errors. I want to warn them about you. While I can't claim you're an operative [HE HAS MADE THIS CLAIM AND THAT I DELIBERATELY MAKE MISTAKES AND LIE -- see above] because I have no proof I do have proof of insanity in the form of your posts. You, as a Sandy Hook conspiracy theorist, are a severe minority. Most people could see easily and quickly that this was in no way a hoax. Some people even studied the psychology of grieving. You are unstable, incapable of discerning reality from fantasy is the best way to describe you. It takes you much, much longer to discern reality in socioeconomic, sociopolitical and generally social situations. I want my readers to associate your name with the words BAD DATA.

Peace,
Jeff



From: clare kuehn
To: jeff prager
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:42:33 PM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare

Whatever.

You have 100 subscribers because people want to hear another side AND people like not to think bad things.
You have not watched about MK have you. You fraud.

(To mirror your language.)

*'@-@ search me

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Gimme some truth.  -- John Lennon



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From: jeff prager
To: clare kuehn
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:36:59 PM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare

I'm the fraud?

You investigated nothing.

You simply acted like a mainstream media repeater and pored the internet and repeated every crazy conspiracy theory you could find. I performed an actual coordinated and systematic investigation with note pads and tons of data inputs. You're the fraud dear [AGAIN A SEXIST PUT-DOWN] and we both know that.

When this all settles in a few more weeks or months everyone that believed Sandy Hook was a false flag and wrote about it is going to feel like the biggest dumb ass.
Peace,
Jeff



[AGAIN FROM JEFF -- REFUSES TO LOOK AT THE DERREN BROWN MKULTRA PROOF; I REPLY BELOW]
From: jeff prager
To: clare kuehn
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:30:30 PM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare


Let's see, if MK worked they wouldn't have needed 23 Israeli Mossad agents all filmed on CCTVs with fake passports and IDs to kill one Palestinian in Dubai. Duh. Think Clare. If MK worked they could have done this with one person. Just an unarmed guy in Dubai. Could have killed him in the street. Instead they did a risk-benefit analysis, chose the only method that would not only work but that would work without fail and they used it, with 23 agents.

MK Ultra mind control is the stuff of internet lies Clare and you fall for all of this stuff because you're unable to see the reality of the world around you. You believe things because they're on the internet, but not because they're true. Your analysis consists of "does it sound possible?" and that's about it.

I determined that Sandy Hook was not a false flag

AFTER looking at all of the evidence,
after studying the psychology of grieving,
after going to Bushmaster, Sig Sauer and Glock web sites to get weights,
after going to Google Earth and spending several hours examining the school grounds,
after watching 300 FOX, ABC and Reuters videos, in order, from the 14th through the 23rd
after reading dozens of essays on Sandy Hook,
after looking at the DHS web site to determine there were no drills that day but just classes, every day,
after listening to a 2-hour audio 8 times and taking notes
after investigating LIBOR at the proper banking web sites
after wasting my time investigating the Latin Kings in Connecticut
after examining Chris Rodias full charges and his MAJOR charge-Two five milligram Percocets-wowser!
after watching 14 funerals carefully
after collecting every statement ever made by people that knew Lanza-on one page
after spending hours researching gun control legislation
after spending HOURS researching the firearms industry to see if there was a motive, a reason to worry about guns being taken from us-there is not-the firearms industry owns the US, just like the banks.
after over 100 hours Clare of actually investigating. Not repeating. I'm not a repeater, YOU ARE.


I develop my own theories with my own methods that are proven and work. I have a plan for investigating things, a system, a process and it works and I employ it well.



I performed an investigation while you acted like a mainstream media repeater simply repeating every crazy conspiracy theory you could find. You investigated NOTHING. You don't now how. I didn't fail to weigh evidence as you've suggested. It's you who failed to perform an investigation. Had you done so you would have arrived at the same conclusions I did 4 weeks ago.



The MK program was a total failure. There is absolutely no way to program a person to kill another person at a designated time and place.
Peace,
Jeff




From: clare kuehn
To: jeff prager
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:42:21 PM
Subject: Re: Hey Clare

They don't need MK for everything and seem (Chapman, Hinckley, Sirhan) to use it mostly -- if they did -- for the patsy who doesn't actually do the kill shot, if the person is not a natural killer deep down.

Watch the show.

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Gimme some truth.  -- John Lennon



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From: jeff prager
To: clare kuehn
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:28:08 PM
Subject: Re: Lanza birth announcement


You're nuts or agenda driven. I don't have time to figure it out and it doesn't matter. The end result of your behavior and Jim[']s is the same. Truthers lose credibility. I managed to stay out of this mess quite well and was right all along about each and every anomaly. Go away.
Peace,
Jeff



From: clare kuehn
To: jeff prager
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:39:32 PM
Subject: Re: Lanza birth announcement

You didn't debunk; you found alternate explanations for all unusual things; which is fine and necessary, just as asking the possibilities on the other side is. Without one singular absolute, you falter, because your argument becomes strained.

You still don't get MKUltra (negative persons or nice persons, alike). Your due diligence stopped short at an absolute proof on that one for the nice persons, though it's available. And you never acknowledged that saying MKUltra can't be called "control" if it's manipulation of persons with a nasty streak, is merely a semantic claim on your part.

1. You believe the ATF?

2. Many gun ranges in the area OF SANDY HOOK within 60 miles, when called, didn't recall Nancy or Adam. [ ... Despite his claim at times that the ATF has "confirmed" they have some ranges at which Nancy and/or Adam shot]

3. Whatever happened or didn't, at Sandy Hook, you are unfair. I proved to you I didn't "spread" the list as my own, but that wasn't good enough to credit; you had to find flaw in it (because of spreading it at all -- whereas I feel that after 9/11 we have to be careful to suspect first, check each thing in light of THAT, not the other way around, except as we move forward with each piece and check it, but not in the INITIAL COLLECTION OF POSSIBLE ODDITIES).

4. YOU have the true confirmation bias, however. About me and Jim and whatever.
You said it wouldn't be the same Adam Lanza, that I was crazy for thinking it might, and now you find out it is and choose [for the SSDI listing for Adam P Lanza dead on Dec. 13 in New Hampshire] the "it's a clerical error" version - or an apple thrown to all of us in the world to mess us up with wrong theories and discredit 9/11. Technically possible answers, but who has confirmation bias on that? You.

5. You don't dare watch MKUltra work -- not only on someone angry (bring the killer out of the person where it wouldn't have been out, before), but on someone nice.
Try it.
Open you[r] actual emotional mind enough to realize it works, [and] I was right ---- even if I'm "crazy".
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9J6O6soHA
When you're done with that, we can go through the serial killers. Some are, and some might be linked to cults, programming, and/or paramilitary/CIA. Some are admittedly linked. Some are maybe not. Some are not.

I do love your voice, Jeff. I wish you'd use it for less hurtful intentions and opining.


***
Gimme some truth.  -- John Lennon



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9 comments:

  1. Wow! Unbelievable...is this the same 9/11 Jeff Prager? The gov't could pull off 9/11 to further an agenda but not a school shooting worse than any made for T.V. movie ever? I guess nothing fishy about Aurora, OKC Bombing, Columbine, Tuscon, JFK, RFK, MLK either eh Jeff?

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    1. Yes, the same. I've updated the post since your comment came in, to clarify who he is and why he is behaving this way.

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  2. Global Cyber Warriors
    and the Information Operations Road Map of 2003
    (signed by Rumsfeld, pursued by Panetta)
    The REAL Sandy Hook Story
    ~ by Jeff Prager

    I originally wrote this essay on January 25th. It was posted then and I'm posting it again now because tonight my Yahoo email account was broken into. All 936 of my contacts were sent really ridiculous spam and several days ago my entire credit history, child support owed, the several corporations I've owned over an almost 40-year career and my marijuana arrest record were posted to my page in comment boxes. This is over my position on Sandy Hook so I'm experiencing cyber warfare first hand.

    If you haven't read this essay, maybe you could. And if you have then you might think about sharing it. Thanks. Peace.

    Let me tell you about Sandy Hook ...

    Never Let A Crisis Go To Waste

    Across the globe, here in the USA as well as in Iran and everywhere else planet-wide, students are learning to rifle through trash, hack digital networks and plant false information on the internet. Stalking people is part of the curriculum in the Global Cyber Corps. New recruits also learn to write computer viruses, crack passwords, plant listening devices and mine data from cell phones and flash drives even after they're broken. The Los Angeles Times article [1] posted on November 22nd stated that all "cyber warriors" are trained to plant false information on Facebook. That means that at any given time the USA, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the UK, Russia or any of over 200 other countries might be posting propaganda on your page in the form of comments and posts.

    The cyber war is a war for your mind, your thoughts, the very person you are.


    Continued below-

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  3. A major strategy of American Cyber Warriors and the Cyber Corps is that "public affairs officers brief journalists". In 2005 we saw that the Pentagon paid the Lincoln Group, a private company, to plant "hundreds of stories" in Iraqi papers to support US policy there. Earlier in 2003 we saw the Pentagon plant retired career officers across the American media as political consultants who appeared on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and the alphabet soup of US news sources. We weren't told about their intimate connections to SAIC, Boeing, Raytheon and the Pentagon itself.

    We know Americans are manning cyber warrior computers here in the states and posting essays and comments on a wide variety of subjects all across the internet and in several different languages.

    What about Cyber Warriors here in the USA right now? Almost two weeks ago I penned an essay about Mike Powers. Joyce Riley interviewed Mike Powers on January 16th in what was called a "Sandy Hook Special Investigation". I sat down and typed out what Mike Powers said during the interview which gave me a transcript of the interview and I deconstructed what Mike was saying. He was lying and he was lying about everything. But his lies were carefully crafted and they weren't the lies of a lunatic. They were the lies of Americas Cyber Warriors.

    Six hours after I posted that essay where I made it quite clear that Powers was lying about Sandy Hook and provided my analysis my entire credit report was posted in comments to my page, with links, along with my marijuana arrest record and past due child support. An actual effort to discredit me was made and one that wasn't that easy to accomplish. I'd already written several essays about my arrests and child support so it didn't bother me. It's that it happened. I was attacked by a cyber warrior. It wasn't the first time. It won't be the last.

    A Test Of The American Cyber Network

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  4. It's the 21st century and we need to test our cyber network, right? For goodness sakes we test everything! We've recently been reading about FEMA drills (system tests) because they've been a popular topic of conversation since Sandy Hook. We know our government tests everything until it's been tested completely and they test it again, and again. Governments test things, over and over again.

    I'm sure many of you have been startled by the "Test Of The American Broadcasting System"; no one could have chosen a worse sound to associate with a television warning system. If that sound doesn't get your attention you're already dead. Sandy Hook got my attention. When Sandy Hook happened I was also cyber-connected to a large group of well known alternative media personalities-people you know and people I know personally and people we both have relied upon for information with which to form our opinions.

    I relied on these people to some degree.

    As Sandy Hook unfolded I was able to get an intimate glimpse of cyber warriors in action. Almost everyone that pushed the line that Sandy Hook is a staged event and certainly anyone still pushing that story is a cyber warrior testing the American Cyber Warfare System. Anyone who legitimately believed the Sandy Hook lies can't be blamed. Various governments have been waging cyber wars of sorts for a decade or more and figuring out the truth isn't the simple task it might once have been. Sandy Hook was a test alright. It tested the Cyber Warfare System. Feedback was collected and refinements will be made.

    Who's Real?

    We've seen a small segment of society generally referred to as the "truther movement" get captured by Sandy Hook cyber warriors. It's difficult if not impossible to distinguish between a real person and a cyber warrior unless of course you know someone personally. I've had 3 people from Facebook come to visit me, all of them more than once and Jeff Lizan is here this weekend for the third time. I've enjoyed many dozens of hours of phone conversations with other people. I can list about 30 people I can trust on Facebook based on years of cross-commentary, posts and personal relationships which means I don't know the majority of people here.

    I don't know who's real. I do know and have personally encountered people that are operating with an agenda. We're observing a cyber warfare test with Sandy Hook. A government or agency of some type with a preselected and pre-approved plan inserted or "cognitively infiltrated" [2] the various so-called "truther" or "conspiracy" groups with false and misleading data planted selectively in the media. Those false stories were then fanned by cyber warriors across the internet with their blog posts, video links and commentary.

    Adam Lanza was responsible for Sandy Hook, alone and unaided. But within an hours time from the last bullet he fired a government agency designated for cyber warfare took over. The media cycle was injected with increasingly curious, always unprovable elements that made Sandy Hook look almost like a false flag or staged event.

    Because I was a part of this large email group I actually saw a major lie originate. I saw minor alleged anomalies originate and I saw them grabbed, picked up on and accepted as truth by people across the internet. I saw a major Sandy Hook fabrication originate from people on this email list. Think that over.

    Dozens Go Viral - Rapid Is The Key

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  5. We had dozens of videos go viral of allegedly "fake" people which were implying that people at Sandy Hook were paid "crisis actors" simply playing a part. A great many people saw through this quickly but we were inundated during a period of 30 days with dozens more Sandy Hook anomalies. The thought of "fake people" stuck in some peoples minds. Many people found an anomaly or two to hang on to. Some were very convincing. "The ability to rapidly disseminate persuasive information to diverse audiences in order to directly influence their decision-making" through the internet, as Rumsfeld said, [3] has now clearly been achieved.

    People got Sandy Hooked.

    The key here is to "rapidly disseminate persuasive information" through the internet and that phrase rests heavily on the word "rapidly". The goal is to be able to respond immediately, almost instantaneously, and testing a rapid response system on the American public and especially so-called "truther" and "conspiracy groups" is what we just experienced. Americas Cyber Warriors, in action in the homeland, using the Sandy Hook crisis for the testing grounds [4]. Never let a crisis go to waste [5].

    References You Should Read

    1. Cyber Corps program trains spies for the digital age. LA Times, November 22, 2012
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/22/nation/la-na-cyber-school-20121123

    2. Conspiracy Theories by Cass R. Sunstein & Adrian Vermeule, January 15, 2008
    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585

    3. Information Operations Roadmap - October 2003 - Donald Rumsfeld
    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB177/info_ops_roadmap.pdf

    4. Who's Faking It? Pentagon "Cyber-Warriors" Planting "False Information On Facebook"
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/whos-faking-it-pentagon-cyber-warriors-planting-false-information-on-facebook/5320550?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=whos-faking-it-pentagon-cyber-warriors-planting-false-information-on-facebook

    5. Paul Romer is credited with the quote, "A crisis is a terrible thing to waste." which he said during a November 2004 venture-capitalist meeting in California. Rahm Emmanuel made the words famous.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Romer

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    1. Except that there was an active shooter drill in a school nearby (per Lt Vance, and EMS impressions as well). So there WERE actors around the area.

      And it's not usual to do home and funeral and police changeroom interviews using green screens. Could be done, but it's not normal.

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  6. you're brain doesn't work properly Clare.

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  7. You've repeatedly demonstrated that you are too closed-minded to be able to tell what is good thinking or not, when your impressions rule. Some things must be worked through the full way, without taking exit ramps, so to speak, before one can know the significance of something for sure.

    Other points:
    1. It's "your".

    2. Glad you are back, whatever your value (not) for evaluating me: your work on nukes is great.

    3. You consistently failed to and refused to work to understand that hand signs don't mean always the same thing to different people, and are used by some as showing allegiance to an idea (semi secret) out in public; also that MKUltra "assassin hypnosis" can and would work on those who have a predilection for violence and, in a different way, on those who don't (as demoed here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9J6O6soHA by Derren Brown, by using a dissociation feeling so that the shooter feels not that they are targeting a human but feels more the shot accuracy only).

    Did you ever look at the very careful choices in hand signs I sent? Probably not. Bother or don't comment.

    Did you ever look at the Derren Brown work? I bet not. DO. Or don't comment.
    So in those areas, your brain ("you're brain") doesn't work. It's prejudice and smarmee self-assurance (false pride).

    On the other hand, Jeff, it is good you are back for larger 9/11 purposes, if you are.

    4. Have you bothered to separate dislike (however unwarranted) of me, from compliments? You don't. At least I do.

    Whatever to you.

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